Lizzie Borden Society Forum

catholics have masses for everything. I know I am a catholic myself.

snokkums @ Sat May 20, 2006 5:34 am wrote:catholics have masses for everything. I know I am a catholic myself.

Snok, did you go back to the Catholic Church ?...I thought you were LDS ? I have relatives and friends who are LDS.


Tracy...

One fear never mentioned before (?) is that Bridget, as a presumed non-citizen, could have been deported by the powerful authorities of her day.
Was there much control then as now? No 'green card' or other formalities in the 1880s? I don't know.

Thanks for the kind words, Haulover. I still very much visit this site though I haven't been posting too much. Well, let's just say that for me, the pendulum has swung back to "Lizzie did it," and has remained there for quite some time, now. I know you have come to embrace a more involved scenario, Haulover, with other actor(s). But I really do think that something irreparable happened between Lizzie and Andrew. It's just too much of a "coincidence" that shortly after Lizzie's trip to Europe that she assumed the larger bedroom, that the robbery took place in their house, that she spoke of harm looming over the household, and, finally, that the murders happened. I also think that Lizzie had a very fertile imagination, nourished by her rich reading. This "imagination" (remember she wrote someone about "building castles in the sky"), I think, got her envisioning a life to which she thought she had the right to be accustomed. In some way, though I can't prove it, I think she did it and honestly felt little or no regret, having rationalized it all away.

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Tonight I was channel surfing and on cable they showed an old "America's Most Wanted" episode. It was the one on John List. He was the man who murdered his mother, his wife and his children. He was also a devout Lutheran. After the murders he even wrote a letter confessing his crime to his pastor. These murders took place in the 1970s and List believed that his family was giving into the evil that was all around them. His daughter had even wanted to get into acting which really upset List. In his twisted mind he believed he was actually saving them.

That happened around March 1971 in Westfield NJ, an upper class enclave (as I remembered it). The real story may be found in a book. Ever notice how some sinners are great church goers? I just don't mean Vito Corleone. The actual facts may be: his wife was suffering from syphilis, his son and daughter were experimenting with drugs, John had embezzled money from his mother and was still short of funds, etc. Or it could just be gossipy news?